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Post by hhb » Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:51 pm

While surfing the intertubes, I came across a FaceBook link by Ray Sawhill: Hes Just Not That Into Anyone. To make a long story short, it is about how easy and ubiquitous online porn is making real women less desirable than online porn. I have written about this phenomena before, and so has FB.

The article is, predictably, treating this as a problem. The best part of that article is a series of comments by a person identifying himself as LTRANGIE. I am now going to post parts of those comments here..

You know what doesnt condescend to men for their sexual desires? Porn.

You know what doesnt demand that men repress their sexual desires? Porn.

You know what offers men the opportunity to experience (voyeuristically, mind you) any sexual variation that their minds can conjure without judgment, rejection, or condemnation? Porn.

You know what doesnt demand that men have wealth that they cannot achieve, not because of their own failings, but because of complicated system of social privileges? Porn.

You know what doesnt demand that men be 66″ tall, well muscled with hair in the right places and none in the wrong? Porn.

You know what doesnt change its mind halfway through the act? Porn.

You know what doesnt send a complicated, subtle, and constantly changing labyrinth of mixed signals and double standards? Porn.

Men would not be so hungry for porn if their girlfriends and wives didnt reject their sexuality so casually. Porn doesnt demand to be called an equal while placing the burden of choice, approach, pursuit, proof, and support solely on men. It merely asks one question, What do you desire?

It goes on.

But what we really desire is a partner, a woman who respects us for who we are, not how much we earn or what position on the socioeconomic ladder we occupy. A woman who listens to our opinions and critically challenges her ideas instead of embracing cognitive dissonance in the face of any concept that lacks convenience. A woman who understands that men also have needs, fears, complications, and hurdles to overcome as part of the process of life and wants to share that experience. Men want a woman who abandons the manipulation and deceit of passive aggressiveness and aggressive passivity for responsibility, courage, and decisiveness.

It gets better..

Women demand equality, and deserve it, but they maintain a stranglehold on the control of sexuality. Any indulgence outside of the narrow role that they expect their mate to fulfill is met, at best, with begrudging compliance instead of enthusiasm and curiosity, hostility and abandonment at worst. It is very easy for women to replace a man, but takes a disproportionate amount of effort for men to replace a woman.

Men are given the message that their sex is a weapon and that they bear any and all responsibility for sexual misadventure while women are given license to experience their sexual renaissance on any terms they choose with only the responsibility that is convenient and with as much deniability and license to revise their personal history as their conscience begets.

and better..

If a woman wants to indulge her daddy issues, its a healthy expression of repressed desires. If a man has mommy issues hes a pariah. There is something wrong with him and he is to be avoided. It is because he is weak and too messed up to be dealt with. It is because he is undeserving of love.

I think that it is worth considering that mens turning to 2 dimensional representation of fulfillment is a reaction to and attempt to cope with (no matter how misguided that attempt may be) the double standard of the single dimensional role that women expect us to fulfill while expecting the freedom to cherry-pick from a list of privileges without accepting their complimentary responsibilities.

The truth of the matter is that the hurt and damage caused by these double standards, the effects on my psyche, have been profound and long-lasting. But from a feminine perspective, I am supposed to just get over. To man up and fulfill my traditional gender role except for when it deprives them of their whims. Porn lets me be myself.

and ends with this..

The male libido is not disappearing. It is being rerouted to a place that does not fill us with fear, guilt, shame, and anxiety for the humanity of that libido. This article did nothing but perpetuate the stereotype of male as predator and female as victim. Not a single one of these ideas nor that of the necessity of a shared responsibility for a healthy sex life between couples was even hinted at by Mr. Rothbarts article. How progressive. The final irony is that the title of this article references, a book and movie that does nothing but reinforce the commonplace aggressive passivity, entitlement, and unrealistic social expectations of the American woman. Congratulations on your pandering.


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Post by 2wize » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:30 pm

Oustanding.

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Post by alainplus » Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:51 pm

Porn is dangerous for the younger crowd. It really is possible just to spend hours on it, hours that should be spent on other matters. But then again, it's free and you'd probably spend less time on it than with a girl.

Once those sex robots come out in a decade or two, Western society is in deep trouble. Why go for the real thing when the fantasy SexInc provides is beyond real.

It's bad enough with television and movies, but once a company finds a way to channel everyone's sexual frustrations effectively, it's just not going to be good. Men will work just the bare minimum, then go back home to their batcave wherer all their needs and desires are more or less fulfilled.

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Post by Elaraith » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:56 pm

[quote]Men will work just the bare minimum, then go back home to their batcave wherer all their needs and desires are more or less fulfilled.
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I already do that to some extent

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Post by 3dartist » Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:21 am

Wow. Those comments were surprisingly good.

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Post by silentstorm666 » Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:06 pm

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Once those sex robots come out in a decade or two, Western society is in deep trouble. Why go for the real thing when the fantasy SexInc provides is beyond real.

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Well, sex robots are not here yet, but good quality sex dolls are. Check out w w w.realdoll.com

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Post by toto » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:32 am

[quote]Men will work just the bare minimum, then go back home to their batcave wherer all their needs and desires are more or less fulfilled.
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What's the problem with that? Aren't men free to choose how they live their lives and how they spend their time and resources?

Individual freedom is all that counts not the productivity quotas for the master.

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Post by christopheroregon » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:40 am

Porn is making women obsolete. No longer can they blackmail as effectively as in the past, because any man, even the supposedly "unworthy" men (by women's gold-digging standards) can get a woman, and not just any woman, but a drop-dead gorgeous woman. Any time, on demand. All it takes is the push of a few buttons.....

And a new, willing, submissive woman every night. What could be better?

I'm not saying the consumption of porn is necessarily good for society (it's not) but women changed the rules and dynamics of dating and mating, and men are responding in the most logical fashion possible, by trading real women in for imaginary women. And men are finding they like these new women much better than the old, rancid, fishy, smelly models.

Or is "rancid, fishy and smelly" rather redundant? :roll:

Christopher in Oregon

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Post by dave » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:22 pm

Is there any 3D porn to go with those new 3D televisions?

A couple years back I remember seeing 3D glasses from NVidia advertised, they worked in conjunction with their video card and drivers.

I'm not sure if they could be used for porn videos and/or pictures but that would be kind of interesting to check out.

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Post by MarcusAurelius » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:11 pm

"Men will work just the bare minimum, then go back home to their batcave wherer all their needs and desires are more or less fulfilled."

Hahaha already there, my friend. I've taken the Office Space movie mentality and implimented that into reality. I just don't CARE. Lol.

I remember in the past, as a mangina I would stress about my work because I always needed money to please the hag. So I could take her out to dinner, on vacations, etc. I remember we would have nights out, a bunch of people at the bar, getting drunk and all bitching about work. How stressful it was, how we were all stressed.

I've found that striving really hard at work doesn't help all that much, at least not in the kind of jobs I've worked at, retail, sales, call centers. If you were the best car salesman they would fire you because they didn't want to pay you so much. If you worked your ass off at store maintenance, this and that, you would still be overlooked at promotion time unless the mgr (in retail almost always a bitch) had favored you....not based on work performance or qualifications but personal biases. My ex used to get out the proverbial whip to try to get me to fight for every promotion I could possibly attain for "us" and I was passed over every time, even when I was dedicated and ultra hard working. As time went on, I just stopped caring. Seriously. Why stress myself out over this bullshit? Over people and work you don't even LIKE? I truly started doing what you say, the bare minimum to stay on staff and collect my paycheck every two weeks. When someone would bitch at me for something, for say, just doing the bare minimum, rather than stress about it like I did in the past, I would just laugh it off. Let the managers be the ones who are stressed, because they at least have to pretend they give a shit.

Over the past couple years, guys, until they let me go (and several others) my stress levels went wayyyyyyyyyyy down.

It's a distant memory. I am equally unattached and uncaring of the places I work at, the people I work for, and my outcome and performance. I've saved a lot of money over the years, and am on unemployment right now. I was actually fired from my last job, a stupid call center. In Columbus, call centers are where most people without a degree seem to work. When they fired me, I actually laughed.

Gone are the days when I care about this mindless shit. That's why I went back to Seminary, to do something I'm passionate about.

But until the time when I'm in ministry, anyone who hires me....lol...it will be like hiring the guy from Office Space. Call someone who cares.

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Post by christopheroregon » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:11 pm

Marcus has hit it squarely on the head. Life is short; why stress about it? Is anyone going to care if you beat yourself into the ground when you die? Anyone at all? You will be quickly forgotten, and your memory will drift away with the sweat from your brow.

Live for now, enjoy your hobbies, have fun.

For tomorrow you die, and no one gives a damn.

Least of all a woman.

Christopher in Oregon

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Post by goingmyownway » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:43 pm

[quote]Marcus has hit it squarely on the head. Life is short; why stress about it? Is anyone going to care if you beat yourself into the ground when you die? Anyone at all? You will be quickly forgotten, and your memory will drift away with the sweat from your brow.

Live for now, enjoy your hobbies, have fun.

For tomorrow you die, and no one gives a damn.

Least of all a woman.

Christopher in Oregon[/quote]

When I'm at the end of my life, what will it matter if I have 1 million dollars left or 1000 dollars? as long as I'm debt free?

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Post by hhb » Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:41 am

Exactly

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Post by Longshot39 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:22 am

It matters whether you have 1 million or even 1000 dollars left when you die, because life is too short. The only way to die is flat broke, or maybe even owing a little money ;)

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Post by khankrumthebulgar » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:44 am

Men got married in past decades to get laid. No Ring no splitting the sheets. Feminism changed all that. Women giving it away for Free is "Empowerment" don't you know?? Bull Shit. Women want to control the market price for sex. The Dontgetmarried site used to have a cost of nookie calculator. Porn is the ultimate destroyer of market value for Women. Which they themselves have debased.

It has gotten so bad that the Porn industry is losing money and going broke. There are too many willing attention Whores giving it away for Free!!! No need to pay for it. LMAO this is great theater and comedy. The Nation has become a moral and toxic sewer. Our Women have gone insane.

It turns out that Janet Napolitano the Homeland Security Secretary has met with the Muslim Brotherhood. Wow I would love to have been a fly on the Wall. The Skanks at Code Pink went to Egypt to support the Muslim Brotherhood. These are radical Feminists sucking up to Al-Queda's mentors!!! They have officially jumped the Shark.

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Post by dsc » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:48 am

[quote]The Dontgetmarried site used to have a cost of nookie calculator.[/quote]

If anybody is interested..

http://www.costofsex.com

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Post by superbad » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:26 pm

yup , at our age, why rock the boat. the Latina i dated was a rarity: smart, young, sexy, talented, laid-back, loyal, positive, cooked, cleaned... BUT (and there's always a BUT) she eventually wanted to do the marriage/kids shuffle. even "good" girls will turn your life into a roller coaster. nowadays, it is rare to see a married man who has amounted to anything. he's a shell of his former self. he's like a guy who has been dropped in the middle of the ocean with a cinder block for a wife. a successful day becomes treading enough water as to simply not drown.

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