How could women prevent men from ghosting?

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Post by Longshot39 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:27 am

lusitan asked an excellent question on
That question being "how can women prevent men from ghosting"?
Feel free to add to this work in progress, but I can think of a few ways right off the bat.

The easiest way is simply to tax/regulate a person to the point that it's a daily struggle to simply have food, clothing, and shelter. Once a person gets into that situation where they basically "live to pay the rent", getting extra money to get the hell out, becomes almost impossible. These modern day serfs will not have the energy after working 12+ hour days just to survive, to do things like protest the powers that be either. Sure, by default, you'll likely be a ghost anyway, for the simple reason that other than supporting the rest of society, everyone will ignore you.

Another way would be to legislate MGTOW and the like as "hate speech". Look at how tyrannical the government is today, and the legislation they have passed if you don't think this is possible. Even now, they are trying to re-activate the "Fairness Doctrine", which is basically a way to make sure that popular shows that speak out against the powers that be, have to give "equal time" to someone who supports the current system. However, I'd be willing to bet money that shows that support government will not have to give equal time, because those views of course will be considered "moderate". Then when MGTOW disappears because it's "hate speech", many young men will not realize ghosting is an option, and getting only one source of information is what nations such as North Korea excel at. Through one sided propaganda, eventually men will be brainwashed into being second class citizens.

Also seeing that men aren't "stepping up to the plate", women could very well legislate to change that. It would likely start as an incentive, such a maybe getting money to get married, but it probably wouldn't end there. Sure, we already get plenty of shaming language, and more of that wouldn't bother us, but they'd have other nasty tricks up their sleeves. They could very well greatly increase the taxes on single people ( read men ), to the point that the scenario similar to the first paragraph would happen, so basically "get married or become a serf". If the plague of single mothers still ran rampant ( and it likely would ), Irlandes suggested that maybe men would be forced into a "marriage lottery", similar to the draft. If your number is called, you have to get married to this woman, with no say in the matter. I'd agree the later is pretty far fetched, but then again, how much things that are happening now were considered impossible even 10 years ago?

The last one, while not preventing you from ghosting, would still be unpleasant. That would be, since you ghosted, and now don't really blend in with society, the blue gun thugs would spend extra time harassing you in many ways. For instance, if a cop wants to give you a ticket for a moving violation, they could follow you for a long time, and sooner or later, you will make a mistake in your driving. Even failing that, you could have a small crack on your windshield, or the light is out on your license plate ( most common way police pull a person over BTW ). I've never had this happen, but I'm sure it would be a very miserable existence once the blue gun thugs pay special attention to you.

These are just a few of the ways I could think of that might prevent a man from ghosting.

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Post by 3dartist » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:09 am

Another way is for women make up a complaint about you at work so that you get fired as in "not a good fit."

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Post by rebel » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:29 pm

Personally, I honestly don`t know how women could possibly force men to marry them. One unbeatable strategy for men is to make themselves undesirable to women.
And that`s easy to do:

*Tell a woman you expect her to be the breadwinner, so that you will be on the receiving end of an alimony.

*Burp and fart... (it works!)

*Tell a woman you have made yourself a great gift: a vasectomy.

*Tell women you hate kids and you don`t ever want any.

*Tell women you live with your mother.

*Tell women that you are absolutely incapable of being faithful.

*Work just enough for yourself.

*Expat.

*Pretend you are gay.

*Generally speaking, there are thousands of ways you can behave in such a fashion that no woman will ever want to be married to you.

The best way to prevent women from forcing men to marry them is to become... a complete jerk in their eyes.

Take a look at Russia. Now, if there was ever a totalitarian regime... still, most men there don`t marry. Worse, they knock up women and leave them to rot. Men in Russia have no respect for women whatsoever. This, too, is coming to a theater near you.

Soon enough, you will see thousands of AW on the `Mail-order brides`sites, looking for husband outside the Anglo sphere.

Even as we speak, the Dutch gov. pays women to get a hairdo and try to snatch a man into unholy matrimony. You heard that?
Women and the gov. are desperate because men are pulling out. More coercive action will only reinforce men's resolve.
To sum it all up, no force on earth can make men marry if they don`t want to.
No way, Jose!!

lusitan

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Post by lusitan » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:30 pm

[quote]Personally, I honestly don`t know how women could possibly force men to marry them. One unbeatable strategy for men is to make themselves undesirable to women.
And that`s easy to do:

*Tell a woman you expect her to be the breadwinner, so that you will be on the receiving end of an alimony.

*Burp and fart... (it works!)

*Tell a woman you have made yourself a great gift: a vasectomy.

*Tell women you hate kids and you don`t ever want any.

*Tell women you live with your mother.

*Tell women that you are absolutely incapable of being faithful.

*Work just enough for yourself.

*Expat.

*Pretend you are gay.

*Generally speaking, there are thousands of ways you can behave in such a fashion that no woman will ever want to be married to you.

The best way to prevent women from forcing men to marry them is to become... a complete jerk in their eyes.

Take a look at Russia. Now, if there was ever a totalitarian regime... still, most men there don`t marry. Worse, they knock up women and leave them to rot. Men in Russia have no respect for women whatsoever. This, too, is coming to a theater near you.

Soon enough, you will see thousands of AW on the `Mail-order brides`sites, looking for husband outside the Anglo sphere.

Even as we speak, the Dutch gov. pays women to get a hairdo and try to snatch a man into unholy matrimony. You heard that?
Women and the gov. are desperate because men are pulling out. More coercive action will only reinforce men's resolve.
To sum it all up, no force on earth can make men marry if they don`t want to.
No way, Jose!!

[/quote]

Let your facial hair grow.

Let your hair grow.

Have a low paying job.

Don't attend University.

My favorite tactic is to say that every woman that sleeps with a man outside of a relationship is a whore.

Works like a charm.. I wonder why.. women get away from me as soon as I say that because it makes them "feel" bad about themselves. Someone's judging the poor cupcake! How mean!

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Post by rebel » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:39 pm

Only the government could try to force men to marry. But that would demotivate so many men that it would make things worse. Civil disobedience is bound to follow.
Not worth it.

Things are as they shoud be: women do what they will and men do what they will.

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Post by lusitan » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:45 pm

[quote]
Only the government could try to force men to marry. But that would demotivate so many men that it would make things worse. Civil disobedience is bound to follow.
Not worth it.

Things are as they shoud be: women do what they will and men do what they will.


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The last stage in the decline of a civilization is just that; the govt. trying to force men to marry.

Ancient Rome, just before her fall, tried to make men marry women. The men believed the woman to be masculine, quarrelsome, nagging, promiscuous and controlling.

Rings a bell?

I have first row tickets for the overthrown of the Western Civilization by the African and the Islamic Civilization :D.

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Post by Awesomo » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:20 am

The first thing that came to my mind was some kind of forced interaction. If there were regulations on where single people could live, the government could force men to live in buildings where they would have to meet women. Maybe theyd even instate regulations on the design of new buildings, which would facilitate (or demanddepending on how you look at it) interaction between the sexes.
Various pr campaigns also come to mind. Basically you could move public opinion in the direction that its shameful and something really bad to be single. By creating a group mentality of us against them I think you could indirectly force people to marry.

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Post by dsc » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:27 am

[quote]The first thing that came to my mind was some kind of forced interaction. If there were regulations on where single people could live, the government could force men to live in buildings where they would have to meet women. Maybe theyd even instate regulations on the design of new buildings, which would facilitate (or demanddepending on how you look at it) interaction between the sexes.
Various pr campaigns also come to mind. Basically you could move public opinion in the direction that its shameful and something really bad to be single. By creating a group mentality of us against them I think you could indirectly force people to marry.
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Meh..

I don't know how it is in Finland, but over here (I live in a city of 1 million in Canada) you can live next door to people for years without ever getting to know them. Particularly if you live in a condo like I do.

Just this week I was doing laundry and seen a notice posted on the window outside the entrance left by a delivery person. I looked at it and my new neighbours next door were left a notice that if they didn't square up their electric bill that day, they would be disconnected.

Nice guy I am, I grabbed the notice & knocked on my neighbour's door. The woman who lives there was too afraid to come out. It took a couple attempts to demonstrate I wasn't going to mug her or try to sell her anything.

But that's how it is here. Similar situation in the future and I think I wouldn't even bother..

Anyhow, long story short, I think that even if interaction between the sexes were 'forced' and there were PR campaigns, it would still be very tough to force anything..

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Post by Awesomo » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:38 pm

Yeah, that's pretty much what it's like here as well. Generally neighbors don't interact much.

I just thought of something else. It's a two-part attack.
The first part is legislation. Basically what you do is create laws to "protect children" and "make sure they grow up with two parents" or something like that. If you get someone pregnant - boom! - you are "married", maybe not officially on paper but in the eyes of the law it would be the same thing.

I think the most difficult part for a male attempting to become a ghost is not having sex. The next step in the plan would be to create a situation were men are horny all the time, thereby more easily fall for temptation. MAybe they'd put viagra in the water supply or something.

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Post by Armageddon15 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:46 pm

[quote]Personally, I honestly don`t know how women could possibly force men to marry them. One unbeatable strategy for men is to make themselves undesirable to women.
And that`s easy to do:

*Tell a woman you expect her to be the breadwinner, so that you will be on the receiving end of an alimony.

*Burp and fart... (it works!)

*Tell a woman you have made yourself a great gift: a vasectomy.

*Tell women you hate kids and you don`t ever want any.

*Tell women you live with your mother.

*Tell women that you are absolutely incapable of being faithful.

*Work just enough for yourself.

*Expat.

*Pretend you are gay.

*Generally speaking, there are thousands of ways you can behave in such a fashion that no woman will ever want to be married to you.

The best way to prevent women from forcing men to marry them is to become... a complete jerk in their eyes.

Take a look at Russia. Now, if there was ever a totalitarian regime... still, most men there don`t marry. Worse, they knock up women and leave them to rot. Men in Russia have no respect for women whatsoever. This, too, is coming to a theater near you.

Soon enough, you will see thousands of AW on the `Mail-order brides`sites, looking for husband outside the Anglo sphere.

Even as we speak, the Dutch gov. pays women to get a hairdo and try to snatch a man into unholy matrimony. You heard that?
Women and the gov. are desperate because men are pulling out. More coercive action will only reinforce men's resolve.
To sum it all up, no force on earth can make men marry if they don`t want to.
No way, Jose!!

[/quote]

Let your facial hair grow.

Let your hair grow.

Have a low paying job.

Don't attend University.

My favorite tactic is to say that every woman that sleeps with a man outside of a relationship is a whore.

Works like a charm.. I wonder why.. women get away from me as soon as I say that because it makes them "feel" bad about themselves. Someone's judging the poor cupcake! How mean![/quote]

haha I'm stealing that whore comment. They sure don't like to be judged, no matter what they do.

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Post by masculistman » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:58 pm

[quote]I think women could make it more difficult for men to Ghost but not impossible. The scenarios you've described lead up to the outright creation of a serf/slave class, if the US gets to this point and doing it openly then feminism will be the least of a man's worries. Outright labor and concentration camps and remote gulags would be the standard method of dealing with dissidents. And being a MGTOW/Ghost would definitely be classified as dissent and not welcomed at all.

I totally agree with the projected tactics of changing free speech laws to limit the discussion of MRA/MGTOW tactics. Suppressing the opposition by any means has always been the tactics of the radical feminists. Men are bred to be manual labor and cannon fodder for wars, nothing more, and they can't be allowed to view themselves as being equal to women when in fact radical feminists consider themselves to be vastly superior.

The one redeeming factor is that I do believe the Misandry bubble is going to burst as per this prediction.


before we get to the point of open suppression of men.[/quote]

One would think that the Bobbitt incident in '93 would have woken men up but they are still asleep.

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Post by rebel » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:11 pm

[quote]Yeah, that's pretty much what it's like here as well. Generally neighbors don't interact much.

I just thought of something else. It's a two-part attack.
The first part is legislation. Basically what you do is create laws to "protect children" and "make sure they grow up with two parents" or something like that. If you get someone pregnant - boom! - you are "married", maybe not officially on paper but in the eyes of the law it would be the same thing.

I think the most difficult part for a male attempting to become a ghost is not having sex. The next step in the plan would be to create a situation were men are horny all the time, thereby more easily fall for temptation. MAybe they'd put viagra in the water supply or something. [/quote]

Well, first of all, Viagra DOESN'T make you horny. It helps ziggy raise its head by enlarging the vessels and veins and whatever shit so the blood will flow.

Whenever it is necessary, I will always trust that a man can make himself totally undesirable to women: he can fart, swear, wear old clothes, grow a thick beard and even look barbarian.

He can smell, eat like a pig, burp, be invasive and impolite. He can use the word fuck every second word. He can be a complete jerk and make women want to run away fast.
THEN, the gov. would have to come up with laws that
And we all know that it will not happen.

lusitan

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Post by lusitan » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:21 pm

[quote]Yeah, that's pretty much what it's like here as well. Generally neighbors don't interact much.

I just thought of something else. It's a two-part attack.
The first part is legislation. Basically what you do is create laws to "protect children" and "make sure they grow up with two parents" or something like that. If you get someone pregnant - boom! - you are "married", maybe not officially on paper but in the eyes of the law it would be the same thing.

I think the most difficult part for a male attempting to become a ghost is not having sex. The next step in the plan would be to create a situation were men are horny all the time, thereby more easily fall for temptation. MAybe they'd put viagra in the water supply or something. [/quote]

Well, first of all, Viagra DOESN'T make you horny. It helps ziggy raise its head by enlarging the vessels and veins and whatever shit so the blood will flow.

Whenever it is necessary, I will always trust that a man can make himself totally undesirable to women: he can fart, swear, wear old clothes, grow a thick beard and even look barbarian.

He can smell, eat like a pig, burp, be invasive and impolite. He can use the word fuck every second word. He can be a complete jerk and make women want to run away fast.
THEN, the gov. would have to come up with laws that
And we all know that it will not happen.

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I have a very strong body odor... and I go days without washing for that special effect... No one sits near me when I enter the bus, believe me and I love it. I look mostly like a bum minus the teeth; It's the only visible "part" I take care of so I make sure no woman sees how nice my teeth are.

It would, somehow, ruin the image I want women to see when they look at me, LOL!

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Post by Elaraith » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:00 pm

I have a really bad posture (epic hunch), I eat like a slob, wear the same pair of jeans for a month, shave once a week (I look like a neckbeard caveman by the end of the week) and I don't make eye contact.

Women don't ever approach me, and that's the way I like it!

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Post by enigma » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:39 pm

They could give marriage incentives like, tax breaks, child benefits if you have a kid the kids get free health care and you get a food allowance or something. Affirmative action for married men. If you are married man you can get a job easier, quotas. Man with kids gets even more priority. This wont stop men from going their own way but the weak or fence sitters will go for the marriage making it easy for the govt to target the true ghosts.

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Post by artbunker » Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:17 pm

How about they finally wise up, let a man lead and have his rightful role. stop listening to these feminist , and start to act like women and caretakes again . Losing the stank attitude and taking care of themselves better will also prevent this .

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Post by nemo » Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:48 pm

I think that women will simply continue their present strategy until the system shuts down.

There already is a bachelor tax, but it's hidden. The *nominal* rates are the same, but there are zillions of tax breaks, tax credits, special programs, etc. that are tied to children that essentially are "adult support" for women.

I've already alluded to this by comparing the US federal income tax returns that are filed by a single man without primary custody of any children vs. a woman with three kids. If both of them earn $20,000 a year, he pays around $1000 in taxes, she gets about $6200 in free money from the government. His effective income goes down to around $19K and hers goes up to around $26K, before anything else is considered.

That's a difference of about 1/3 of her earned income, just from the federal income tax laws. Add in the zillion programs that are designed for women (WIC, section 8, welfare, free school lunches, etc.) and low-income women can live as well as middle-class men just by virtue of their legal control of two or three children.

Add in alimony and child support and most divorced women earning $20K will live the same lifestyle as a single guy with no kids who earns ~$45-50K per year. Small wonder that single mothers don't try to get challenging, higher-paying jobs - they'd lose as much $$$ in benefits as they would gain in net income.

We'll see higher rates for the general populace combined with carefully crafted tax breaks for women. It's perfectly legal for the Nanny State to discriminate against men by raising general rates and giving "special" breaks for its pet voters, single mothers. THAT'S the real bachelor tax.

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Post by rowingdude » Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:45 pm

i don't know about you guys but i bathe, act polite, and other "desirable" gestures simply because I hold myself to a higher standard. I don't need a woman in my life right now, in fact, being tied down would probably hinder things greatly. But just because you don't want a woman around you does not mean you have to become a filthy bag of shit to keep them away from you..

The line "let's be friends" works just as well as "Sorry, I'm gay"...

Instead of fighting the problem by making yourself seem unwanted, try the opposite, try too hard and you'll push people away just as fast.

Also, there's a trend out there right now for more "rugged" men, so you might try a new tangent. Plus, men who fulfill most of these qualifications find themselves surrounded by women because they're seen as more "alpha" since they do not conform to society's standards..

Just a thought...

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Post by freeman » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:25 am

None of this will ever come to pass because you could always pull the P.R. card and claim you're gay. No politician would dare touch the sacred cow of an oppressed minority group.

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Post by oilcanhenry » Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:25 pm

Awesomo wrote:Yeah, that's pretty much what it's like here as well. Generally neighbors don't interact much.

I just thought of something else. It's a two-part attack.
The first part is legislation. Basically what you do is create laws to "protect children" and "make sure they grow up with two parents" or something like that. If you get someone pregnant - boom! - you are "married", maybe not officially on paper but in the eyes of the law it would be the same thing.

I think the most difficult part for a male attempting to become a ghost is not having sex. The next step in the plan would be to create a situation were men are horny all the time, thereby more easily fall for temptation. MAybe they'd put viagra in the water supply or something.
Just a fact: Viagra and its analogs do not make a man horny. They only allow for stiff erections, not increased libido.
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Post by Zerg_Player » Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:18 am

Awesomo wrote:Yeah, that's pretty much what it's like here as well. Generally neighbors don't interact much.

I just thought of something else. It's a two-part attack.
The first part is legislation. Basically what you do is create laws to "protect children" and "make sure they grow up with two parents" or something like that. If you get someone pregnant - boom! - you are "married", maybe not officially on paper but in the eyes of the law it would be the same thing.

I think the most difficult part for a male attempting to become a ghost is not having sex. The next step in the plan would be to create a situation were men are horny all the time, thereby more easily fall for temptation. MAybe they'd put viagra in the water supply or something.
In India, if a man has sex with a woman, bang. You are instantly married.

I read about a guy who did not know the law. He protested and said that he did not want to get married. The parents did not care. Both his parents and the girls parents planned the big wedding day. Guess what the guy did? He went a got a vasectomy. When he told the parents what he did, the girls parents called off the wedding. His parents could not believe what he did.

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Post by arcangel911 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:45 am

Zerg_Player wrote:
In India, if a man has sex with a woman, bang. You are instantly married.

I read about a guy who did not know the law. He protested and said that he did not want to get married. The parents did not care. Both his parents and the girls parents planned the big wedding day. Guess what the guy did? He went a got a vasectomy. When he told the parents what he did, the girls parents called off the wedding. His parents could not believe what he did.
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Post by Abbey5 » Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:01 pm

Zerg_Player wrote:
Awesomo wrote:Yeah, that's pretty much what it's like here as well. Generally neighbors don't interact much.

I just thought of something else. It's a two-part attack.
The first part is legislation. Basically what you do is create laws to "protect children" and "make sure they grow up with two parents" or something like that. If you get someone pregnant - boom! - you are "married", maybe not officially on paper but in the eyes of the law it would be the same thing.

I think the most difficult part for a male attempting to become a ghost is not having sex. The next step in the plan would be to create a situation were men are horny all the time, thereby more easily fall for temptation. MAybe they'd put viagra in the water supply or something.
In India, if a man has sex with a woman, bang. You are instantly married.

I read about a guy who did not know the law. He protested and said that he did not want to get married. The parents did not care. Both his parents and the girls parents planned the big wedding day. Guess what the guy did? He went a got a vasectomy. When he told the parents what he did, the girls parents called off the wedding. His parents could not believe what he did.
Didn't knew that. Gotta remember the trick if it comes to that. :lol:

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Post by mongolking » Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:25 am

Whatever tricks they/gov pull, there's always a way past. Adapt or marry/die.

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