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Post by christopheroregon » Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:33 pm

Gents;

By that, I surely don't mean this forum.

What IS getting monotonous is that I got yet another phone call from a man I know who has just felt the jaws of the family court system snap shut on his testicles.

Leroy, (not exactly his real name but close enough) called to tell me that his wife tossed him out last night. She had the police present and everything. Made a big to-do out of the event. Her mother and father were even there, along with her two sisters, her best friend, and her brother.

Leroy has six children. Six. Ranging in age from I guess about six to fifteen, more or less. A good Mormon guy; one of the few who still stays in touch with this heretical ex-Mormon.

The phone rang late last night, and he went off telling me what had transpired. My fear was that he was going to want to stay with me, but luckily, he's staying with his brother, also divorced. (Divorce seems to be epidemic in the Mormon church these days)

Anyhoo, Leroy got home last night, unaware that anything was amiss, and was surprised to see four! police cars outside his house. He rushed in, fearing the worst, and was immediately stopped in his tracks by two burly and dykish female police officers.

He was ordered to turn around, leave the premises, and not come back. He tried to talk to his wife, who was standing behind the police staring blankly at him, and they warned him if he didn't leave he was going to go to jail.

His crime? None whatsoever. No charges, no crime. His wife told the police she "was afraid of him" and on that basis he was ordered off the premises.

Now, I've know this guy for many years. We've stayed in touch, off and on. He's a decent guy who was just trying to live his religious belief's as he was raised. I know many Mormon guys in the same boat. Mormon women no longer have to "obey" their husbands, and consequently the divorce rate in the Mormon church has soared.

Leroy managed to pay off their house at the end of 2010, and things were looking pretty good. I can't mention what he does for a living, but suffice it to say, he does well. He's not rich, but he manages to pull down over $90,000 a year with overtime.

So far, I don't have too many details. Apparently, he doesn't either. He just knows his wife has filed for divorce and he's been ordered to stay away from her, the children and his home. Sorry, HER home.

Here's a man, a devout Mormon, who lived his life the way the church taught him. He went on a mission, came home, married the gorilla, er, girl of his dreams, and now this. The really sad part is that most Mormon families tend to have lots of children, so when the divorce comes, a guy often gets hit with child support for five or six kids; often more.

I've only seen his wife once since my old Mormon days. She was a hottie back then. Now she's larger, much larger. And grayer. Much grayer. You'd hardly believe it was the same woman. At least that was what I saw when I saw them together a couple of years ago.

But, anyway, the process has started, and he's terrified. And with good reason. Try and calculate how much this guy is going to pay in CS and alimony to this stay-at-home mother with all those kids. The numbers are sobering.

The really infuriating thing is that his local bishop will probably support the wife, as she's "old Mormon" as opposed to Leroy, who is a convert. You'd have to have a Mormon background to understand the significance, but in Mormonism there is a class distinction between Mormons who can trace their lineage back to the pioneer days as opposed to mere converts. When i was attending, the distinction was right out there. You KNEW who could trace their roots back to the original church members.

Anyway, he looks screwed. I'll let you know more as he tells me more.

Christopher in Oregon

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Post by khankrumthebulgar » Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:48 pm

Mormon Church Leaders are moral cowards. Dirt bags who enable and support a Lesbian led movement contrary to their core beliefs. They are hypocrites of the worst variety, sanctimonious frauds selling snake oil. Mormon Men have been emasculated, told to support their Women by staying home and giving them a break from taking care of their children.

The Dirtbag Bishop who I sent my resignation letter to, lied to the Elders Quorem in the Ward in Allen Texas. He told them I left so I could go and sin. Asshole is a sociopathic liar. I will never set foot in a LDS Chapel again.

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Post by wc » Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:18 pm

Sorry to hear about your friend there Christopher, most unfortunate no doubt.

I hear you on the "old Mormon vs convert status. In my particular ward I didn't seem to notice it as much, as it seemed that the "lifers" in my ward seemed to have a little extra respect for those of us that found the one and only "true gospel" on their own. It was the same with the returned missionary vs non-missionary. As a man, if you didn't go on a mission, well, you were more or less left with the scraps as far as women went unless you had something else really fantastic going for you.

In my ward (singles ward) of about 50 or 60 people, I believe there were only 4 or 5 that had parents that were still together? This was in the 90's, and I had already grown leery of the institution of marriage, at this point I was not even aware of MGTOW or MRA's. I stuck with it on and off for about 10 years before I finally threw in the towel for good.

There were tons of feminists even then, two in particular that really stood out, but even the average girl I would say was carrying a bit of it with her? To be fair though, I did meet some really nice girls there, or at least best I could tell, they seemed nice? But the two ball busters I spoke of actually found a couple of idiots that asked them to marry them? So I can completely sympathize with the comment that khan made regarding the emasculation of the men. Too bad, for a while there they had a really strong family unit, now that seems to be lost for good.

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Post by Prodigal Son » Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:53 pm

Poor guy, Christopher.

He really didn't know what had hit him, isn't the first time I've heard of things such as this happening and it seems that many women here (and there) use the police as their "bully boys" to make sure they get what they want. I recently posted about someone I know who was dating a woman that had cheated on her husband repeatedly and left her kids to be with him which he didn't know... but now that he's found out the truth and asked her to leave? she's claimed that he's abusive to her and the police are now refusing him access to his OWN HOME where this woman nows lives quite happily, sold all his furniture and moved in her own!? I know this might seem hard to believe but, believe me, it's the truth. If this (and your posting) isn't enough to make men think about what they're letting themselves in for getting involved with women then honestly? I don't know what will.

Do... not... get ... involved. Choose happiness, freedom and prosperity. Things you'll never have, if you get involved with women.
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Post by analyzing » Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:56 pm

Damn... this sucks. I know this stuff happens often but this story is a great reminder for young men.





She had this planned obviously and statistics say the month with the most filed divorces?(January-pretty close)

I do have a certain amount of sympathy for guys like this but I will be perfectly honest... I'm glad it's not me.

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Post by silentstorm666 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:19 pm

Sorry to hear about your friend, CIO.

In my opinion he would have been better off joining the fundamentalist mormons, who's balls haven't rolled off into the sunset. They have multiple wives, heeps of children and they manage to keep them all in line. I'm in no way an expert at either the fundamentalist nor the mainstream mormons, but I know which of the two still has a strong patriarchal system thats worth something.

Post 1971 mormonism is nothing more that politically correct pussy-wiped government approved mormonism. No wonder the concequences of it are such things that you write about on this forum.

If you don't mind, can you write about some more of the things you saw happen within the church back in the day.

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Post by pcr2 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:22 pm

The only females that will ever enter my house are my mother, female family members and friends (friends only when others are present) and escorts.

The rest will never have to feel afraid in my house. No pig will enter my territory on that accusation.

I feel for that guy. Playing by the book and getting fucked over like that.

His wife had obviously planned this all along with the mortgage. Bitch.

Women don't even need to read Machiavelli and Sun Tzu to know the tactics.

Rotten to the core while we men need to read those things to get a grasp on such manipulation techniques.

It makes me wonder what would be in The Prince or The Art of War if it was written by a women.

I know I would pay serious money to read that.

Thank god that soldiers are men. The horrors if you were captured by a female SS squadron...shudder

PCR

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Post by shade47 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:24 pm

Fuck every political organization churches included. The only reason I attend a corporation is to get paidand advace my career other then that not thanks.

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Post by crackpot » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:33 pm

Man, sorry to hear about this. Was this another one of those guys that look down on unmarried men too? It's just amazing how humbled he must feel now that this is happening to him.

I don't even want to THINK about how much child support and alimony this guy is going to pay, she'll bleed him dry.

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Post by mfsob » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:44 pm

Paid off the house and then gets the boot. Coincidence? I think not. That was the final chip in her basket and she decided to cash them all in.

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Post by arcangel911 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:26 pm

Christopher- Sorry about Leroy. If I may, I have a question.

Why do you think there seems to be a new surge in Mormonism related divorces? ( I ask because a few people who were / are Mormons all are getting divorced this year.) I just find it odd, because they were all fairly happy for the last several years with no issues or problems.

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Post by future303 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:11 pm

This is one of the reasons I understand atheists even if I'm not one. When the stupidness in religion goes down this low, you can't help but just throw it all out.

I feel for your mormom friends. You are right, the mormon faith states that men have to have as many children as possible, I won't get into the details of why. But suffice to say, when the clamp comes down, a ton of children suffer, and the man ends up paying thru the nose.

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Post by recluse » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:34 am

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Of all men, the religious ones will feel the most betrayed and abandoned and isolated, they're going to have their core foundations blown out from under them which is going to make enduring this even harsher.[/quote]

Also men who believe the justice system is about truth and justice.

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Post by extraycrom » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:54 am

If I were him I would go ghost and never be heard from again.

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Post by shivermetimbers » Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:44 am

Yep, I'm with extraycrom on this one- I almost did it myself but managed to salvage a bit out of the divorce and had the epiphany of moving across the country into a different jurisdiction. The women love to drag you through the mud so long as you're nice and close, but once you're several hours away by plane- days by car, it's a whole different matter. It saved my sanity and allowed me to still see my kids once/twice a year.
In this poor bastard's situation, I'd liquidate all assets NOW and go to Belize- might be more lawless than western society but they won't extradite and won't hunt you down for the support or alimony. Leave the fat whore with her house and give her the professional victim status she so justly deserves.

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Post by khankrumthebulgar » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:19 pm

The Men who are or were LDS can confirm this. Guilt is used on the Men. If you are honoring your Priesthood then you will... fill in the blank. The LDS Leaders caved to the FemBots in the 1990s. Mormon Women are as susceptible to coercion as their Non Mormon Sisters. Oprah, Diana Sawyer, Babara Walters, Connie Chung, Katie Couric these Women dominate the media until recently. All are avowed Feminists.

Feminists infiltrated the media, and they changed the culture. Read the book by Myrna Blythe "The Spin Sisters" it vividly explains it. It also explains how these Women were sold a pack of lies. The Spin Sisters colluded to infect US Women with Feminism and Socialism. That was their intent. Also interesting is a cocktail party hosted in NY by supporters of Hilliary Clinton in the book. If you read it, your eyes will be opened. Our Women have been sold a pack of lies and duped.

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Post by christopheroregon » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:19 pm

Gents;

Mormonism decided to mainstream in the late seventies. They had been denying blacks the priesthood, as they call it, and suddenly the prophet had a "revelation" that, in spite of former prophecies to the contrary saying blacks would NOT hold the priesthood any time soon, blacks were now eligible to hold the priesthood. No fanfare, no discussion, just poof! and blacks were now suddenly acceptable.

In reality, what had happened is that college sports teams like Stanford were refusing to play against BYU, and the church realized they would have to drop their old policy of treating blacks poorly, and let them advance in the ranks. It was not a popular decision, as I recall. Yet, no one dared to openly criticize the leaders over the decision, or point out that by overriding Brigham Young's edict, they were in violation of church policy and even biblical standards pertaining to false prophets.

But, business is business, and the Mormon church is a very big business. They crossed that hurdle with nary a whimper, and today, few people are aware of Mormonism's racist past. How soon people forget.

Women within and without Mormonism have been pressuring the General Authorities in Salt Lake City for a long time to end the "patriarchal rule" in the Mormon church, and around twenty years ago they buckled again, and said that wives no longer had to obey their husbands. This was the beginning of the end. It took a little while for the divorce train to gather momentum, but gather momentum it did, and now divorce is rampant in the Mormon church. In less than one generation divorce is now very common in Mormonism.

Lately, I've been getting reports back from people I know in the church telling me who has just divorced. I wish I could just sit here rattling off names (I won't) of all the people I knew as kids that are now divorced. Some of them have been real shockers, I can tell you.

Mormonism was one of the last holdouts against feminism, but once it became financially expedient to jettison tradition, Salt Lake did just that. Again, business is business, and Salt Lake is all about making money. I doubt very much if any of the leaders even "believe" anymore. It's a massive corporation with holdings in areas that would blow people away.

Sadly, virtually all of your fundamentalist and evangelical churches have long since buckled; hence, the very high divorce rate in Christianity. In fact, as I've mentioned in the past, the divorce rate among evangelical Christians is second only to the rate of divorce among Jews.

Ironically, the lowest divorce rate is among atheists. Huh. Imagine that.......

Christopher in Oregon

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Post by khankrumthebulgar » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:28 pm

One of the Other scandals that came out in recent years. Is that Zions Bankcorporation underwrote alot of the Merchant Processing for High Risk Merchants aka. Sleaze or Porn Merchants. Don't let morals get in the way of filthy lucre. The Mormon Leaders quietly allowed a public for profit institution to underwrite porn and commerce. Also Marriot Corporation has allowed Adult Pay Per View movies for years. More White Sepulchers.

Mormon Leaders have allowed apostacy to destroy their families and have whored their principles like the other churches. There are Mormon Feminist web sites out there. If you search you can find them. Mormon Women have embraced a heresy contrary to their core beliefs. The irony is they have embraced Babylon the Great. The Whore of all the earth. The imagery of the Old Testament is ironic in that the LDS faith is one of the last US Holdouts.

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Post by christopheroregon » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:29 pm

Silentstorm 666;

The fundamentalist/polygamist sects are under extreme fire from the government, women's groups on both the right and left, and even the authorities in Salt Lake, who hate them vehemently for existing and reminding people of Mormonism's polygamous past.

I have several books written by (You guessed it) women who have left the polygamous sects, and there is extreme unrest in the ranks. The women are slowly but surely clamoring to bring an end to polygamy.

Now, I'm not a polygamist. I'm not even a monogamist. I don't like the concept of marriage, and I think it goes against our biological nature to try and commit to one woman for life. But, I understand why people created families and religions to try and maintain order. That's fine to a point. But, women, rebellious creatures that they are, have begun flexing their muscles and tossing aside religious edicts assigning them to a lower status.

The Mormons and Protestants and Catholics have been mainstreamed, and now they're just mopping up the stragglers. They're waging an all out war against Islam, the last real holdout against feminism. It could go either way.

Ah, well. Enough of my pontificating.

Christopher in Oregon

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Post by christopheroregon » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:32 pm

Khank;

As you know, the Marriott family is one of the most powerful families in Mormonism. They've been peddling alcohol in their bars! for years, and as you mention, porn as well. Huh. When they're doing their "tithing" does Salt Lake decline to accept any of the money generated by booze and porn- or not?

I think we know the answer.

Christopher

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Post by future303 » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:05 pm

Joseph Smith got his "revelation" by playing with a Ouija board.

'nuff said.

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Post by rebel » Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:51 pm

""Leroy managed to pay off their house at the end of 2010"

This was his biggest mistake!

I know that hindsight is wonderful but there is no more excuse today for not knowing how thoroughly rotten, inhuman and low-life women are. It's written all over for krissakes!

No way he can get back his money now.
Or perhaps he could try to get a mortgage to "pay for alimony", but his chances are slim.

If he's just a little bit smart, he is going to cancel his life insurance and disappear into the night.

He could find some safety here in Canada IF he doesn't fall for pussy again..or Mexico.
If he remains in the good old US of A, he is deader than a dead duck.

The poor guy will have to cut his losses and try to go on with his life.

I feel sorry for him, of course, but who knows: maybe when enough men will have been gutted, the "ungutted ones" will wake-up.

But don't hold your breath.


Men are very, very, very afraid to protest in N.A.
The Egyptians, with a totalitarian government were not afraid to protest. And they toppled their government.

Alas, the emasculated and totally pussyfied western man is no longer able to even defend his own rights.

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Post by lineinthesand » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:48 pm

That poor guy. Most mormon men are deeply devoted to their families, so I'm sure he will "take it like a man". But, I think I would go ghost. A lifetime of indentured servidtude just wouldn't work for me. I think that if more more men did that, the system would collapse and they wouldn't be able to enfore any of those ridiculous judgements. Yeah, and on the mormon business eithics topic -they have none. Or, at least their ethics are the same as any other bank or business in this country. Mormon bankers in St. George, Utah underwrote some of the first big casinos in Vegas. I dont understand why people think mormons are any different than anybody else..they are people that have big families. In fact, most of the mormons guys I have done business with seem to think that having a big family gives them carte blanche to screw people over. When I deal with mormons I use extreme caution, just like a do when I deal with another religious sect that claim to be gods chosen people...

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Post by mikediver » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:47 am

Islam is holding strong so far. I don't like the tenets of that faith, but it may really take over the world after feminism crashes the western world and communism finally gives up it's shadow existance in the east. I read a quote that said feminism is a death blow to any culture that adopts it. Thensupported that assertion with data on birth rates since feminism too hold in various parts of the world. Where there is feminism the birth rate drops below replacement and sometimes way below replacement. The culture dies when it's families die out.

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Post by Abbey5 » Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:47 pm

Sorry for your freind. :|
mfsob wrote:Paid off the house and then gets the boot. Coincidence? I think not. That was the final chip in her basket and she decided to cash them all in.
But the timing is getting ridiculous and its not even funny anymore. ::sick::
Well, wake the fck up, you men.

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