Why Online Porn Is A Game Changer

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Why Online Porn Is A Game Changer

Post by Hhb3 » Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:48 pm

[quote]While surfing the intertubes, I came across a FaceBook link by Ray Sawhill: He's Just Not That Into Anyone. To make a long story short, it is about how easy and ubiquitous online porn is making "real" women less desirable than online porn. I have written about this phenomena before, and so has FB.

The article is, predictably, treating this as a problem. The best part of that article is a series of comments by a person identifying himself as 'LTRANGIE'. I am now going to post parts of those comments here..

You know what doesn't condescend to men for their sexual desires? Porn.

You know what doesn't demand that men repress their sexual desires? Porn.

You know what offers men the opportunity to experience (voyeuristically, mind you) any sexual variation that their minds can conjure without judgment, rejection, or condemnation? Porn.

You know what doesn't demand that men have wealth that they cannot achieve, not because of their own failings, but because of complicated system of social privileges? Porn.

You know what doesn't demand that men be 6'6 tall, well muscled with hair in the right places and none in the wrong? Porn.

You know what doesn't change it's mind halfway through the act? Porn.

You know what doesn't send a complicated, subtle, and constantly changing labyrinth of mixed signals and double standards? Porn.

Men would not be so hungry for porn if their girlfriends and wives didn't reject their sexuality so casually. Porn doesn't demand to be called an equal while placing the burden of choice, approach, pursuit, proof, and support solely on men. It merely asks one question, "What do you desire?"

It goes on.

But what we really desire is a partner, a woman who respects us for who we are, not how much we earn or what position on the socioeconomic ladder we occupy. A woman who listens to our opinions and critically challenges her ideas instead of embracing cognitive dissonance in the face of any concept that lacks convenience. A woman who understands that men also have needs, fears, complications, and hurdles to overcome as part of the process of life and wants to share that experience. Men want a woman who abandons the manipulation and deceit of passive aggressiveness and aggressive passivity for responsibility, courage, and decisiveness.

It gets better..

Women demand equality, and deserve it, but they maintain a stranglehold on the control of sexuality. Any indulgence outside of the narrow role that they expect their mate to fulfill is met, at best, with begrudging compliance instead of enthusiasm and curiosity, hostility and abandonment at worst. It is very easy for women to replace a man, but takes a disproportionate amount of effort for men to replace a woman.

Men are given the message that their sex is a weapon and that they bear any and all responsibility for sexual misadventure while women are given license to experience their sexual renaissance on any terms they choose with only the responsibility that is convenient and with as much deniability and license to revise their personal history as their conscience begets.

and better..

If a woman wants to indulge her daddy issues, it's a healthy expression of repressed desires. If a man has mommy issues... he's a pariah. There is something wrong with him and he is to be avoided. It is because he is weak and too messed up to be dealt with. It is because he is undeserving of love.

I think that it is worth considering that men's turning to 2 dimensional representation of fulfillment is a reaction to and attempt to cope with (no matter how misguided that attempt may be) the double standard of the single dimensional role that women expect us to fulfill while expecting the freedom to cherry-pick from a list of privileges without accepting their complimentary responsibilities.

The truth of the matter is that the hurt and damage caused by these double standards, the effects on my psyche, have been profound and long-lasting. But from a feminine perspective, I am supposed to just get over. To man up and fulfill my traditional gender role except for when it deprives them of their whims. Porn let's me be myself.

and ends with this..

The male libido is not disappearing. It is being rerouted to a place that does not fill us with fear, guilt, shame, and anxiety for the humanity of that libido. This article did nothing but perpetuate the stereotype of male as predator and female as victim. Not a single one of these ideas nor that of the necessity of a shared responsibility for a healthy sex life between couples was even hinted at by Mr. Rothbart's article. How progressive. The final irony is that the title of this article references, a book and movie that does nothing but reinforce the commonplace aggressive passivity, entitlement, and unrealistic social expectations of the American woman. Congratulations on your pandering.[/quote]


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Re: Why Online Porn Is A Game Changer

Post by inplainsight » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:11 am

Pure Genius. Thanks for sharing bro
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Post by thekingsfool » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:13 pm

Brilliant!

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Re: Why Online Porn Is A Game Changer

Post by inplainsight » Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:13 pm

Hello gentlemen. I just came across this post in the archives. I feel it is a subject worth discussing in depth so this is essentially my attempt at bumping it.

As I have said before, I think women are subconsciously aware of their unshakeable dependency on males. So, in order to further lock males down, every other outlet (being essentially a means of minimizing female interaction) id demonized. It is perfectly understandable and predictable even that porn should be demonized.
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Re: Why Online Porn Is A Game Changer

Post by Psychotherapist » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:24 am

I have a wife who enjoys sexy time quite often...

It doesn't reduce my urge to watch porn and have a go with my hand/pocket pussy every couple days.

Watching porn as I type :-D

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Re: Why Online Porn Is A Game Changer

Post by BeijaFlor » Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:31 pm

Psychotherapist wrote:
Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:24 am
I have a wife who enjoys sexy time quite often...

It doesn't reduce my urge to watch porn and have a go with my hand/pocket pussy every couple days.

Watching porn as I type :-D
Typing one-handed? :lol:
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Re: Why Online Porn Is A Game Changer

Post by inplainsight » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:42 pm

Psychotherapist wrote:
Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:24 am
I have a wife who enjoys sexy time quite often...

It doesn't reduce my urge to watch porn and have a go with my hand/pocket pussy every couple days.

Watching porn as I type :-D
lol
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Re: Why Online Porn Is A Game Changer

Post by inplainsight » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:43 pm

BeijaFlor wrote:
Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:31 pm
Psychotherapist wrote:
Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:24 am
I have a wife who enjoys sexy time quite often...

It doesn't reduce my urge to watch porn and have a go with my hand/pocket pussy every couple days.

Watching porn as I type :-D
Typing one-handed? :lol:
lmao. Alright. I think this thread is 'getting out of hand'
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Re: Why Online Porn Is A Game Changer

Post by BeijaFlor » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:59 pm

Sometimes, you need to be careful about pulling an old thread ... ;)

But you're right, it was good to review.

The "problem" lmao with porn is that it can leave us dissatisfied with the local talent. But that is not unique to porn, it's a phenomenon that goes with every form of mass-media entertainment, since the "Moving Picture Shows" of the Mauve Decade. Neither is it something that happens only to men; think of all the women who have gotten googly-eyed over stars from Rudolph Valentino to ... I don't know, Ryan Gosling?

(Circa 1939: You took Sarah, next door, down to the Bijou to see "Gone With The Wind." She doesn't look like much compared to Vivien Leigh; but you don't look so hot to her, compared with Clark Gable.)

To misquote Cassius in Shakespeare's Julius Caesar -- "The fault, dear ladies, is not in our porn-stars, but in yourselves."
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Re: Why Online Porn Is A Game Changer

Post by skyking777 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:51 pm

This is a brilliant analysis and hints that the future is equally dim. The advent of the silicone AI sexbots will change the second dimensionality to a faux third dimension relative to porn. If women think things are bad now with just DVD porn available, wait to hear the inevitable screaming and demanding laws be passed so men can't use sexbot technology to fulfill a role women have failed in fulfilling. I have seen some pictures of the sexbots currently available and it is astounding. In 5 years, it will be mainstream. The chickens generated so casually by women toward men will come home to roost. Women will lose their ONE and only means of subjecting the male to their subtle and ever changing emotional blackmail. Bet on it.

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Re: Why Online Porn Is A Game Changer

Post by Revenant » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:34 pm

BeijaFlor wrote:
Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:59 pm


The "problem" lmao with porn is that it can leave us dissatisfied with the local talent. But that is not unique to porn, it's a phenomenon that goes with every form of mass-media entertainment, since the "Moving Picture Shows" of the Mauve Decade. Neither is it something that happens only to men; think of all the women who have gotten googly-eyed over stars from Rudolph Valentino to ... I don't know, Ryan Gosling?

(Circa 1939: You took Sarah, next door, down to the Bijou to see "Gone With The Wind." She doesn't look like much compared to Vivien Leigh; but you don't look so hot to her, compared with Clark Gable.)

To misquote Cassius in Shakespeare's Julius Caesar -- "The fault, dear ladies, is not in our porn-stars, but in yourselves."
Those no-fap crusaders try to make a case of porn causing dissatisfaction with real women.
I don't buy it. A few years ago I watched hours of porn and still had lots of sex with my pasty, flabby, pig-faced girlfriend at the time.
To me it seemed to operate on two different levels of my brain.
Compare it to something else that can be done alone virtually like watching a ball-game but has to be done with at least one other person in real-life playing ball. There's a whole different set of expectations, social interactions and physical triggers that come into play.

I think Hollywood movies are much more damaging. they set up both sexes with unrealistic expectations that you are going to woo and win the most alluring partner and that all your times together will be dreamlike sequences where no-one stinks-up the bathroom, has a bad hair-day or runny-nose.

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Re: Why Online Porn Is A Game Changer

Post by inplainsight » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:35 pm

Hmm. Very insightful post Revenant. For what it is worth, I too personally believe that the expectations set up in tinsel town does a lot more damage.
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Re: Why Online Porn Is A Game Changer

Post by Borisblackmilk » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:01 am

I wonder what the returning GIs during the Second World War might say about "the pinup blues" of their lassie back home?

If they got home, and she was just a cunt, they might've been ok. Hated themselves for poor choice, but mostly ok.

Usually, lassie had gotten herself knocked up by another, far more available public dick that somehow dodged the Draft.

Oh, women NEVER did that before the Sexual Revolution, with their bra burning, free lovin' (on wimminz terms only), and mungbeans for all, those poor cows, we shouldn't eat them!

As for being a seeming sexual pariah, this is curious this info has dropped into my lap right now. I'm actually trying to build the causes for why I can't have kids inside my noggin, but I can safely say, that women want it all, without the seeming price tag, is likely a far more systemic issue than our "professionals" would like us to believe. Never mind a few of us blokes with "mommy issues" actually have them for legitimate reasons - our mother or grandmother was a pure cunt.

Oh, right, women point the finger at ME now and say I'M "broken goods"? Women broke me, so yeah, I can stereotype too, Cupcake. kthanxbai.
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